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Saturday, May 5, 2012

New Shed Massacre Video!

April 18, 2012
last update May 5


<< The Khamis Brigade Shed Massacre After all the material we've been over regarding the Khamis Brigade shed massacre, we still haven't seen it all. Just now Felix alerted me to this Rebel amateur video that predates all others and has whole bloody clues the others lack.

ثوار الهضبة يدخلون كتيبة خميس ليكتشفوا المجزرة

Posted by Batruna August 29, 2011.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF_yCX5ffCc


Word for word title translation, proper order: Rebels the plateau entering battalion Khamis to discover the massacre. More intelligible: Rebels (of?) al-Hadhbah (road, on which the Yarmouk base sits?) enter the Base (Katiba) of Khamis to discover the massacre. These people look kind of like locals, possibly rebel fighters, but not armed at the moment. Neither do they seem nervous about remaining loyalists. It might've been in rebel hands for a day or longer prior to this. It was apparently filmed shortly after sunset (about 7:45 to maybe 8pm) on Friday, August 26. We had previously seen no video or photos or anything from that day. Rebels claim it was the first day, sometime at night, or even the next morning, when they first held the base and could enter. In actuality the video could be from one of the days prior even to that, but I find that unlikely. What matters are the various obvious clues it can't be the dates we've looked at before.

The red thing (gas can?) isn't under the ladder yet, something that happened 10-11 am on the 27th (see Exterior imagery chronology).

Of note is the open fire flaming away in the side-chamber, seen in the first seconds and again at 1:00. One thing to note is that these are rebels not handling weapons, or rebel-affiliated locals - ostensibly good people. They just found ostensible victims of a Gaddafi massacre, horrifically set alight, and still burning. No one seems interested in putting them out. Open flames in the main chamber are over by this time. The total darkness inside testifies to that, but doesn't give us much view of what the smoke was doing (an issue of great interest examined here)

There are three dead bodies laying about that weren't there later. Well, they were all seen once more, a bit later, in three photos by Seamus Murphy/VII images, but then gone. A body laid just outside, between the main and side chamber doors seems to have died while crawling. The sand around him and along his path looks pink. By his apparent light skin and clothing, he's the left victim of the two laid out on a truck bed the following morning, as seen in this photo.

The body on the right, extremely bloodied and wearing a Shalwar Khameez, is apparently also seen in this video. I thought he was black, but perhaps not (is that a hint of pink, as well as red, where his face would be?) What must be his body is shown out in the middle of the dusty yard at 1:26, face-down, one shoe nearby.

The other body, burned face, extremely bloodied, shown being dragged from one truck to another here and here, is shown at 0:35 inside the truck he's later pulled from, face down in a pool of blood. His right arm looks tortured. More on this poor guy later...

The mattress victims are also shown, about as later, at 1:09. The bound-feet victim is sporting a longer stretch of green rope than we've seen, and a lot of things in their area are arranged differently. There is a splash of fresh-looking blood (?) next to the broomstick that I don't think is visible later. Much of the graffiti is there already. This often accompanies rebel orgies of bloodletting.

April 19: The green truck is noteworthy, not there earlier than this or later. It's got capacity, possible refrigeration, and might do for transporting bodies. The company doesn't probably matter much, but any Libyans recognize the logo and what that company's known to ship? Cold things?

Petri, in comments, was saying this is the most significant new clue. I thought maybe until just now. When I re-number and re-organize the dead outside the shed, the body I'll have a #1is the ugly burnt face one. Some real insane Gaddafi brutality was done to that guy. Again, I've said he was black, and I still say the hair suggests, actually a mixed-race person with some African blood. Perhaps too light to pass for "mercenary." The slight overweight to me suggests an middle-aged man, so perhaps a commander at the base, stripped to his undershirt. He had special treatment - the video shows him in a pool of blood, soaked around the neck area (slit throat?), right arm splayed out, looking discolored and twisted, likely tortured, forearm cut just below the elbow perhaps. The skin of his left shoulder, seen in the morning, besides varying from burnt raw to toasted dry, also also suggests serious bruising beneath. This guy was beaten all about, it seems.

Below a before and after.

I've enhanced two stills of different exposure to show what this video best can, left. I tried "levels" to salvage some details in the dark, but there wasn't much to save, sorry. This is before, late on August 26. To the right is the same body the next morning. What seems to be lacking theday before is a burnt face and neck. Cheeks look smooth and normal color. Shoulder looks normal. Next morning his shoulders were burnt and cracked in an odd way, and his face rendered lobster-red and crusted charcoal gray with bits of boiled-out eyes. I think we can say he probably didn't die from that, blessedly. But it looks like he might've been "necklaced" with a burning tire around his head. He'd have to be propped upright, and the truck should have smoke stains after...  Note the slit throat - bottom middle - this might have been done to obscure (but it failed)

Clearly, the rebels were in charge of his body when this apparently happened.

More stills and notes:
The fire burning still in the side-chamber. Foreground, outside victim #1, the crawler.

Man with a pick walks by, coming from the direction of the toppled wall around outside victim #7. Is there white powder from those pulled down bricks on the pick? What was that all about anyway? (green "Star" refrigerated truck visible)









A gathering of men in the compound's southwest corner. Note the yellow-sided rebel fighter truck (Misratan?). As the camera approaches, they end the discussion and start dispersing.

The shed interior, main chamber, yields little. There is no visible smoke rising even in the fornt portion we can see, when there would be in the morning. It's just not good enough resolution to be sure they're done smoldering here. We can see two skulls near the front. On the right, up against the wheel rim, is body #15, according to my previous, intensive, mapping of the dead (article, graphic alone). By that, there is no skull in the left position in later images. This appears also to be attached to a body, perhaps the one I numbered 11, which was, coincidentally, filmed by Sky News only (that I've noticed) and removed for all later views. But it would have to be flipped around. Or it's another body by #11, making at least two from right there, obstructing the media's left-hand walkway, that were removed.

109 comments:

  1. The site is starting to look more and more like Schliemann's Troy which in fact turned out to have nine different layers.

    There seems to be three different "massacres" or episodes of violence that differ by location, ethnic makeup, and decomposition of the bodies. The oldest are the charred bodies in the shed (morgue). The next layer are the black bodies outside the shed. The latest layer are the three white victims in on this video.

    It seems to me that the fire was started after the black victims were killed. The white victims could come at the time of the fire, maybe after.

    It is notable that none of the people in the video are armed. One man is carrying a pickax. These are not rebels, more likely they are locals who have just discovered the site.

    I suspect the white victims – or at least the two in the yard – are locals, who just ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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  2. The most prominent new feature in this video (apart from the bodies) is the green delivery truck parked next to the blue police van. It is not there on August 27th nor is it present in the August 20th satellite image.

    It is possible that the truck was used to bring in the bodies that were set ablaze in the shed morgue. It is similar to the French "cheese" van seen transporting bodies at about the same time. The livery points to it being used for delivering fresh food, indicating that it is possibly refrigerated.

    On the sides of the wan, on top of the green color there is a elliptical blue logo with Arabic text and a star. At 0:43 s in the video it is possible to get a clear view of the logo with the last three letters visible. The same Arabic word is also seen as the last word in the text under the logo. Picking out the four letters one by one I see nūn ن, khā’ ج, mīm م, and tā’ marbūṭah ة (a contextual variant of hā’), which reads نجمة – and incidentally translates to Star.

    This must be a well known Libyan brand name. Dairy products? Soft drinks? What ever it is, I guess it is best transported and served cold.

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    1. I didn't think the green truck looked familiar, but I'm less down with the vehicles. It could well be that significant. It is definitely noteworthy as it appears and disappears. Excellent work on the name. I saw where it was readable, but the "able" part...

      I found this:
      شركة نجمة بنغازي للخدمات الثموينية
      Star Co. Benghazi Services Althmwyneh
      At: Libyan Companies
      ...only certain categories related to investment and business (not food shipping?)....Some of the following companies may have ceased to operate due to the recent developments in Libya...

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    2. In the Libyan Yellow Pages I also saw the Benghazi Golden Star company, but they spell their name with "Al-".

      There is also a Kuwaiti telecommunications company with the same name.
      نجمة – شركة اتصالات

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    3. There are some features in the livery of the green truck, like missing paint and a dark coloring, that suggest that there may have been a fire inside the truck. We would need to see the normal livery to compare.

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    4. I think the company of the truck is شركة نجمة , literally Star Company. That logo must be visible somewhere on the web. But it may be a second-hand vehicle from a neighbouring country. One further vehicle I can't remember seeing before is the small Bobcat front loader in the middle of the yard. (Correct me if wrong).
      A few more observations: is that a body slumped from the passenger door of the small pickup wagon at 0.18? And at 0.40, whose are those long legs darting betweent the blue and green trucks? A woman? And is that a woman at 0.59 beside the smart black limo at the entrance?

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    5. Star Company, not important. It's a suspicious vehicle. Front-loader-Sky News 1, 1:32? Body hanging out of the other truck, wondered that myself. Quite likely, but not clear enough to tell. Won't be adding a body over that. Fire inside the Star truck, possible. Missing paint plus darker green- part of the background? Can't tell, maybe.

      Now I'm wondering about fire in that other truck. Checking, I see no sign of smoke in the morning. Was he removed and burned elsewhere then put back and pulled out in the AM? Or am I just wrong, and he was already face-burned the night before? WHat do you guys think?

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    6. When I first saw the green truck my first impression was that it was a "cheese van" from Misrata.

      I spent several hours last night looking for logos for Libyan soft drinks and dairy products. The only logo I found on-line was that of the Al Naseem Dairy Products Company. Their web page at alnaseemdairy.com is off-line, but an archive copy can be found at the Wayback Machine. Their logo is very similar to the Star logo – so close in fact, that either one could be considered a copyright infringement.

      A Google search for شركة نجمة (Star Company) brings up this company profile for Al Naseem. The English language version lacks information, but there is more data in Arabic. Most importantly, the company is said to control two trademarks, نسيم الـ (al-Naseem, "Breeze") and نجمة الـ ("Star"). Also listed is a subsidiary owned 40% – شركة نجمة محمد – "Muhammad Star Co."

      The Arabic language page states as the company's main activities the "production of dairy products including milk, yogurt, and ice cream." The English language page is more specific: "Frozen Dairy Products." The company is headquartered in Misrata.

      'Bloodshed on the street, all death': A desperate plea for help as Gadhafi moves in
      4/16/2011 8:37:22 AM ET
      Freedom Group posted a video on YouTube that showed a large plume of smoke rising across the city. The group said it showed a dairy and ice cream factory in Qasr Ahmed on fire after it was hit. The sound of explosions and heavy gunfire can also be heard in the video.

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      I do not think this a "second-hand vehicle from a neighbouring country". The trademark looks distinctly Libyan – in the neighboring countries one would expect international trade marks and more Latin script.

      The star in the logo is not just any star, but has the distinctive shape of the canonical graphical representation of the North Star – a clear reference to the north, cold and ice – and by association, to ice cream.

      As Adam pointed out above, one of the victims was burnt in the white prison van sometime between August 26th and 27th. This led me to take a closer look at the dark coloring on the ice cream truck. I am no more confident that there has been a fire inside. Paint and plastic peeling off, smoke coming out of the air vent at 0:43s.

      Another clue is the fact that the truck was removed from the site before the press were let in on August 27th. Why such a rush?

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      On more possible motive for burning the bodies: They were frozen, this fact would become known to any "massacre" investigations. Going further on this line of thought, it is possible that the frozen bodies were stored in the truck in Misrata for weeks or months.

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    7. I'm not so sure about the Al-Naseem connection. The excellent video of the plant and its products and delivery vehicles shows no trace of the "star" logo. I can't quite read the word before Star under the side logo - it doesn't look like Sharka, company. the rear address starts off sharka, but not clear what follows...there's a shot of the rear graphics at 1.45. - sloping on left hand door. As you say, probably refrigerated.

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    8. Cool playlist and great work, Petri. I'm not ready to check and verify (one page just crashed my browser), but north star, ice cream, and Misrata all come together nicely for this one unusual in-and-out rebel truck of the base liberation/scene preparation period.

      "I am no more confident " should be "now more confident," correct?

      Smoke from the air vent, will have to look closer. This is important. Frozen even for months? Quite possible. Maybe that's how the Darrat(s) got there after disappearing so long ago near Misrata while on gov't work... Some Misrata prisoners at the shed, number unsure (still haven't tried cataloguing the reported dead, just survivors), none I know of reported as surviving. This is a notion that clearly has to go in the report, but just how in relation to other possibilities I'll have to reflect more. Basically there are a whole lot of possibilities and sub-possibilities, but a few anchored with clues ...

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    9. The original "cheese truck" story is here (thank's, hurriya.)

      Inside a Libyan Hospital, Proof of a Revolt’s Costs
      New York Times, August 25, 2011
      The next day “we found a refrigerator truck — like a refrigerator for transporting cheese — with 28 dead bodies in it,” Dr. Masoud said, suggesting that the Qaddafi forces had killed people in the street and hid the bodies.

      There is no photo of this truck. For all we know, it could be the same truck – and the same bodies.

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    10. I had another look at the August 20th satellite image. It is possible, that the green truck is present on August 20th.

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    11. Don't forget though, the white, ex-France AGD Cheese transporter also called in at a Tripoli hospital to collect bodies for burial. (Euronews video)

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    12. Just stumbled across this:
      Picture : *Graphic* FF found a container full of dead FF in Sreem District of #Tripoli ! #GaddafiCrimes #Feb17 #Tripoli
      http://twitpic.com/6avqx8
      It's a truck, perhaps the one that was at Mansoura, with about five pretty rotten, squishy bodies inside... clearly FFs... why?

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    13. The refrigerated van is very similar to the one in the one in the shed compound, but clearly not the same.

      For comparison see the Jeroen Oerlemans/Panos photo. The rear lights are different.

      The FF photo is also linked here:
      Ketbhaadel Alriqiei, on August 25, 2011 time: 1:58
      ثوار طرابلس عثر عليهم في ثلاجة نقل مواد غذائية في شارع الصريم وعددهم 12 شهيد .. اللهم تقبل الشهداء برحمتك واسكنهم فسيح جناتك وعجل بنصر وخلاص هذه البلاد من الطاغية

      Translation:
      Tripoli rebels were found in a refrigerator transport food in the street and the 12 Alsreem martyr .. O Allah, accept the mercy of the martyrs and Escanhm His paradise and hastily victory and the salvation of this country from the tyrant.

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    14. There is a Alsreem street in Tripoli, see this photo.

      Real estate agents say it is 1km from the city center.

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    15. Libya Uprising Archive, May 26-31
      "TRIPOLI:
      my friend saw it and they were told to stay away from Alsreem street which is near the compound"
      Not clear at all what "it" is.

      I cannot watch it, but there's a Facebook video "What G did in alSreem Street"

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    16. alSreem Street" = mansoura

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    17. "When I first saw the green truck my first impression was that it was a "cheese van" from Misrata."

      The 31-year-old woman now lives in a refugee camp in Fillah,
      in the northwest of Libya. Her cousin was also a victim of the post Gaddafi-era. He was burnt to death along with other loyalist combatants who had remained faithful to Gaddafi.

      Former rebels locked them in a fire truck, splashed it with gasoline and set it on fire. Footage of mutilated corpses was then sent to their relatives, as payback for the atrocities perpetrated by Gaddafi’s supporters against the people of Misrata during the city’s siege in March 2011.
      A few months after the revolution, ethnic and politically fueled violence is still very common.

      http://worldcrunch.com/culture-society/no-signs-of-libyan-healing-now-its-ex-gaddafi-supporters-living-in-mortal-fear-amp-nbsp-/libya-refugee-camps-detention-militias/c3s9432/#.UEfvH5afZ0a

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      18 August 2011 / Libyan rebels claim to have found mass grave containing bodies of 150 civilians slaughtered by Gadaffi forces

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027465/Libyan-rebels-mass-grave-150-civilians-slaughtered-Gadaffi-forces.html#ixzz24lk3JMse

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      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/beyond-bars-one-by-one-tripolis-prisons-give-up-their-secrets-2344155.html

      But beyond the immediate celebration there is an underlying dread that many inmates will not have lived to see freedom.

      Mass graves of 150 civilians have already been found in Misrata and reports emerged yesterday that a truck full of bullet-ridden corpses with their hands tied behind their backs was delivered to a hospital on the Matiga airbase.

      Did the truck with 150 bodies arrive at matiga?

      I just see reports about the 15/17/25 bodies at matiga

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    18. Petri : This must be a well known Libyan brand name.

      related ?
      Al Naseem for food industries


      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1394260&l=3d1e9d371d&id=340402442691043

      a war against the owner of the factory, but now the truth of their pages, as they say, and witness of its people - with Sabha Sabha.

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    19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iWMu8gSvJw

      mr mohamed al fayed @ 0.36 Ice cream misrata

      https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537990_463520210379265_1213127047_n.jpg


      http://www.zawya.com/company/profile/1006472/Al_Naseem_Dairy_Products_Company/

      Al Naseem Dairy Products Building
      Al Nakel Al Thakil Street 2707
      Libya City:Misrata

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    20. On Sunday, National Transitional Council military chief Mohammed al-Fayed told an AFP news agency correspondent,
      “We are ready to take the centre” of Sirte

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      Key figures in Libya's rebel council

      Idris Mohammed Mohammed Bu Fayed
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12698562
      Idris Abu Fayed: Mr. Fayed is from Gharyan.


      http://newlibyaforum.ning.com/profile/HatemHBenfayed

      Hatem Fayed has committed himself fully to the liberation of its country during the February 17 2011 Revolution and
      subsequently
      co-founded the new Libyan Housing Authority (LHA).

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    21. mr mohamed al fayed @ 0.36 Ice cream misrata

      On Monday, 31st May 2010, Al-Naseem for Food Industry, an affiliate of the Privatization and Investment Board, was awarded the International Quality Gold Award for 2010. The Award Ceremony took place in New York, U.S.A. in the presence of a large audience of businessmen and company CEOs from sixty-four countries. 500 CEOs international companies had cast their votes in the run up to the Award Ceremony. The award is given in recognition of the efforts of international companies and institutions to promote and apply the concepts of comprehensive quality and consumer satisfaction,

      *
      The true face of #NATO’s “democratic” #Libya regime: freedom to deceive and poison own citizens.


      http://chrissedlmairblog.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/the-true-face-of-natos-democratic-libya-regime-freedom-to-deceive-and-poison-own-citizens-greenlibya-gnc-misrata-sirte-baniwalid-zintan/

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  3. http://www.libyauprisingarchive.com/824---827-from-a-good-source.html

    24 aug

    PPL R SCREAMING 4 HELP #Tripoli GASR BEN GASHER close to airport FIERCE fighting #Media Pls contact @Ebnat_Alislaam #Libya Ppl DYING
    Just got info that FF from swani ben yadem are on there way 2 help Gaser Ben Gashir, I hope they get there fast!

    farms are of Bashir Salah he has 3 farms there, one next 2 gadafis farm, it has a very high wall of 4 meter
    the second one on the weat of the airport also with a 4 m high wall, 3 one the east side of the airport road, without a wall
    the one behind the center is the same one next 2 gadafis farm its about 10 hactare big

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    1. also from a school called the school of Omran berabha in the center of gbg next 2 the school of Kmies Gadafi boys school

      the 3th farm is on the east side of the airport brige

      there has 2 be someth there even the comander of zintan FF said they noticed a mercides convoy near airport area

      Alafya clinic in gaser ben gashir is getting full of injured and dead civilians, doc there said he saw #Abdallah Mansoor GL

      Pls ppl let the world know what is happening in Gaser ben Gashir!!!!!

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    2. the clashes are on the manara road, galet alferjan and next 2 the farm of #Gadafi

      BREAKING NEWS Gaser Ben Gashir has been liberated just reseaved a call from there!!!!! RT I will confirm later on again.

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    3. Oooh, good...
      It's from here
      TRIPOLI Imam of #Hamaan Mosque @Center of #GaserBenGashir (close to airport said he had seen #KHAMIS Gaddafi

      #TRIPOLI Gaddafi clan trapped in apartment blocks Huge FIREFIGHT taking place now #libya abt 1000 FF surrendering buildings
      [...]
      he Clashes are getting tuffer right now alot of injured civilians are at alafya clinc in GBG…..

      grad rockets figherd on civilian houses, they are fireing from the south!!!!

      Alafya clinic in gaser ben gashir is getting full of injured and dead civilians, doc there said he saw #Abdallah Mansoor GL

      Pls ppl let the world know what is happening in Gaser ben Gashir!!!!!

      the clashes are on the manara road, galet alferjan and next 2 the farm of #Gadafi

      BREAKING NEWS Gaser Ben Gashir has been liberated just reseaved a call from there!!!!! RT I will confirm later on again.

      FF from GBG, swani, zintan and misrata Thxxxxxxxxxxxx


      GF Executed 170 detainess in #Alyarmook MilitaryBase only 4 detainees Escaped 2 from #AzZwayia 2 from #Hey #Alforjan #Libya

      Plus 1 another: My uncle (from Alziziyah) who escaped from Yarmook CONFIRMS this, he said at least 150 massacred.


      That was all tweets from AUGUST 24.

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    4. Good source (actually if you check they are from 25 Aug) ..another one there:
      Free Libya
      Some bittersweet news, found out that my uncle from my mum’s side has escaped from the Yarmook Military camp prison, badly tortured:( #Libya

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    5. Yep, got mixed up. The GBG parts are the 24th, but not the massacre "leaks"

      A couple more: late 8/24:

      #TripoliPrisoners Massacred. I don’t know how many but I can confirm #Gaddafi forces took them out before #FFs got to them.
      #Tripoli: Fighting continues on the Airport road & in #Akwakh, #Bouslim & #Hadba

      8/25 CamboDonut (MMC tweets again?)
      Just in from Misrata mil council:“We have found possible mass murder in Tripoli prison. We believe event happen 4 days ago" "Drs at main Tripoli Hospital know more.Prisoners locked up, grenades thrown into their rooms.”
      “So far only retrieved13 bodies. All badly burnt. Trying to get understanding from city morgue”

      8/25: arwaCNN Arwa Damon
      rebels say they made it to #ghadafi farm 15mins away from #tripoli airport, just drove back with what they say is his mobile home

      ???

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    6. ??? : Y ,the colonel had a bus

      Uploaded by xLibyanox on Aug 25, 2011
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgtTDli-5IE&feature=related
      Mitiga airport battle
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xvgEL83Bnw&list=UUl9Yr6QO4SWAEfWYprD5trg&index=42&feature=plpp_video

      off topic :
      felix : t-shirt?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xvgEL83Bnw&list=UUl9Yr6QO4SWAEfWYprD5trg&index=42&feature=plpp_video
      @ 0.23

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  4. There is no pool of blood near the mattress victims. What we see is a wash basin and a red towel. Compare the spot to this photo by Louafi Larbi.
    A rebel fighter walks near the bodies of fellow rebels at the Khamis 32 military encampment in southern Tripoli

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    1. I do notice a ladder along the wall, behind the body against the side of the alcove, at 1.31, which subsequently has vanished in the Larbi photo. The basin and red towel seem constant. The cigarettes in the tray indicate some sort of watching job, as if smoked by the people on the mattrasses.

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  5. hello,
    for al naseem diary look for example here (but you probably know the story):

    http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2011/04/12/the-libyan-revolution-come-to-the-dark-side-we-have-ice-cream/

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    1. No, I did not know the story – although I suspected the ice cream factory was a rebel / al-Qaeda base when I saw the video of it being bombed. Thank you very much for the link!

      The Libyan “revolution”: come to the dark side we have ice cream
      Weeks before the start of the Libyan rev­o­lu­tion, the port of Mis­rata used by the rebels to smug­gle con­tain­ers full of weapons, ammu­ni­tion and explo­sives with coop­er­a­tion of the rebels sym­pa­thiz­ers port’s managers …

      … The arms con­tain­ers emp­tied at Misrata’s port with­out going through any cus­toms inspec­tion and kept in the Al-Naseem’s under­ground stores, later the arms trans­ported to Benghazi,Tripoli and other cities in Dairy trucks to be dis­trib­uted among the rebels at the first days of the revolution”.


      The blog post appeared on August 12, the printed story in the Al-Kifah Al-Arabi mag­a­zine some time earlier. Yet MSNBC knew nothing of this when they published the "Desperate plea for help" – al Gaddafi is destroying our ice cream factory and killing babies too – story on August 16th.

      I did look at the marketing videos. In fact, I collected my own playlist. There may be too much Western technology for Libya's good; too much Western influence on marketing. But as they say, capitalism is the vanguard of freedom.

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    2. I remember the unprovoked Gaddafi attack on the milk factory. That was August 16? Jees, I had no idea it was so close to the Misratan conquest of Tripoli. How ironic. Please help us, crazy Gaddafi blew up the factory we had our weapons hidden in, to starve us of ice cream, and we'll all be killed unless someone saves us, and also in about two days we'll start our slaughter in Tripoli as we've already taken all the towns between here and there with the weapons we smuggled in as "humanitarian supplies" after the world called Gaddafi genocidal for having a blockade, arguing they'd smuggle in weapons if allowed...

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    3. Nope, April 16, hellloooo.... Where'd I get that? Oh, from Petri. :)

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    4. Sorry, I got my dates mixed up; all this happened in April, not August.

      Here is a working link to the MSNBC story from April 16th:
      'Bloodshed on the street, all death': A desperate plea for help as Gadhafi moves in

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  6. @ caustic : did y ever notice this :
    Twitter / cii: Critical view of #Libya in ...
    https://twitter.com/cii_surrey/statuses/94409512089419777
    Critical view of #Libya intervention from David Rieff: "We have no idea what we are doing in Libya". http://t.co/3CK4W8C.

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    1. Thanks, read it. Makes a couple of fair points but is really little better than the rest of the mainstream drivel.

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  7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPd7YklYOI
    ثوار الهضبة " البطاطا " .. عيادة ميدانية

    field clinic Salahuddin, al furjan
    for members only

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  8. Quick thought - the title needs accurate translating. ثوار الهضبة might refer to the nearby Al Hadhbha Road, or perhaps "hill [another translation gives plateau] rebels" (i.e. from Nafusa mountains, Tripoli Brigade). Wish I knew.

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    1. Finally got back to this. Plateau in Google translate is هضبة and the audio says pretty clearly Hadhbah. Awesome. I presume it refers to the road - they enter Khamis Batallion (base on) Al-Hadhbah (road) - will fix in a minute.

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    2. Or in proper order (it got scrambled) Rebels (from?) al-Hadbah (road?) enter ...

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  9. The first question one must ask about the events in the video is how do the locals – or who ever these people are – know that the two bodies in the center of the yard are truly dead? Or are the people rebels who have just killed these two men. The least anyone in control of the compound would do, is kick them over to see if they are still breathing – if only to see if they need "finishing off".

    These two victims must represent the very last chapter in the violent events at the shed. They represent an urgency and immediacy not seen in any of the other evidence. They must have been killed after the graffiti was painted, after the massacre victims were tortured and killed, after the fires were lit. Their presence in front of the shed would hinder any other activity there, whatever that was.

    Some version of the "survivor" fable state that escapees were shot in the yard while trying to flee from the shed. In fact, it is these two bodies that have given rise to the whole scenario. If so, why were these two particular bodies carried back into the shed to be burned along with all the other bodies that were carried in?

    The only explanation I can give to the two bodies is that they were killed by someone who was not truly in control of the shed compound, maybe not inside the perimeter walls at all. Unattended bodies point to a no man's land.

    A possible scenario is that they were part of (or came with) some rebel entourage, and were killed by loyalist snipers in some counteroffensive. There are a number of places that could have been in loyalist control and give a line sight into the shed compound.

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    1. A further point:

      In all the videos of all the bodies in Libya practically every body has been covered by a blanket. The massacre victims are covered. Yet these two bodies are totally unattended!

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      Typo, meant to say: "why were the bodies NOT carried back into the shed to be burned?"

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    2. Where did these bodies go? They clearly were not helpful to the official narrative. They are pale skinned. Like, for instance, MM Zadan. Had they gone before the early visit by Seamus Murphy the next day? (he doesn't photgraph them but he does show other body movements relating to what is shown in the above video)

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    3. Where did these bodies go? They were taken away for burial on a flat-bed pickup truck – as seen in the photos by Seamus Murphy.

      The more interesting question is if the victims were identified. I have not seen them listed on the Facebook pages as "Gaddafi victims."

      I still think they are locals, who wandered in at the wrong time. Maybe they were killed by rebels who did not like their barbecue party being interrupted.

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    4. Did not Majid Al-Fituri say he visited the shed compound around noon on August 26th? Did he not notice the two bodies? Most likely they were still alive at the time. Why did he not provide medical assistance.

      Maybe they were dead by noon on August 26th. But that is irrelevant. Even in a war zone no one is legally dead before he is covered by something. Someone must leave some sign that he has checked that that the guy is really dead. If not, others – who ever comes next – are obliged to do it.

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    5. Just to say I've read this and sort of thinking about it. No opinion yet. For all we know, they were rebel fighters executed for refusing to follow evil orders. I do doubt they were rebel fighters just left there by anyone who considered them friends or martyrs. These are people the rebels didn't like. Not totally sure they were last, but that makes most sense, as the one is kind of in the road, and the first to be picked up in the morning.

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    6. Oh yes, the Murphy photos are of the two already on the blue flatbed, face up, with the third, posed, being unloaded from the white box van for Murphy to capture. His earlier Tripoli photos were used by the Times of London. The VII photos are duplicated at Corbis, but his website features nothing from Tripoli or Libya. Presumably the rebels had no problems with Murphy seeing these bodies. What is the Fituri 26th reference? Richard Shepherd says he swept into the Khamis barracks on the evening of the 26th with rebels. (perhaps for the purposes of the narrative).

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    7. One more point about the victim in the striped shirt being legally alive. He is supporting his upper body – or at least his shoulders – by his arms. He may be dead, but he has yet to bite the dust. I do not think a dead body could maintain this position for very long.

      In the photos from the morning of August 27th we see that his face is covered by sand. In the video in frame 67 his head is still supported by his right forearm and not touching the ground. In frames 1900–1970 we see that his upper body is upright and his breast is not touching the ground. The position of the body is little different from what it would be if he was still crawling.

      There does not seem to be a huge blood loss. I suspect the cause of death is not loss of blood but a collapsed lung (Pneumothorax). Death would be slow.

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    8. He might be alive, I suppose, but... rigor mortis... I'll look again at the video later. Sorry, another rushed day, haven't had a free minute hardly all day or all weekend or all week. I was srong about the pink, possibly blood-soaked sand. The middle of the screen is always pinkish, video artifact.

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    9. I'm not sure about this legally or formally dead only once covered thing. I get how it makes some sense, but never heard of it as a factor to consider (not that I necc. would know of it...)

      Position and stuff, I don't think we can call it. Maybe his face is dirty, because he'd been dragged through the dirt, and died here spending his last energy wiping the sand in his eyes off on his forearm, after crawling back out of the shed they tossed him in, just to get a "victim who crawled out," but it didn't look right so they scrapped it ....

      No sign of great blood loss as you say, but beneath the clothes, as the photos show, it seems to have seeped out widely, and his shirt looks pulled - simple dragging or some kind of other maltreatment contributing to his death? Crushed, run-over, or something? I think he looks limber even in the morning. Maybe a little rigor mortis in the elbows, but not shoulders, no sign of decay. Probably died on the 26th.

      Maybe it didn't look right because its "we got here just minutes too late" thing was a little overdone.

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    10. Where did these bodies go?

      to be honest : his legs do remind me of the man beneath the green blanket with the green rope to his feet


      http://i47.tinypic.com/2qjfymg.jpg

      apparently no head :

      http://i46.tinypic.com/w9feol.jpg









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  10. At 1.19 in this oft encountered Euronews video featuring a crazed Majid Al-Fituri in the Khamis base weapons shed, one can see munitions being loaded into a white van bearing the lettering of alnaseemdairy.com

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    2. You mean to say:
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4eEWkTmc7I&t=1m18s
      (third time lucky, I hope.)

      I do not think this is anywhere near the eagle gate Khamis brigade base. There is a large weapons storage compound north of the large "crop circle" fields, just north of the north-east corner. I came across it when looking for the "Afromerc" base. I think this is the place.

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  11. At 0.19 and 0.25 we get clear views of the small silver coloured pick-up with box body built on top. It has curious semi-circular slots cut in the side(s) and rear. For breathing? Animals? Is this another rebel's capitives transporter? Or perhaps converted for shooting out of? The doors are open, indicating that it is associated with people in the video. It seems to appear in partial view behind Salim's right shoulder in his first Sky interview, but the cut-outs are not visible. Does it appear anywhere else?

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    1. Ah, the pick-up box van is seen with the doors wide open at 0.46 in the RT video

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  12. Ban ki moon on demand
    http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/unifeed/d/18836.html

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    1. thanks for tip - but I can't get the video to play, or even this one,http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/unifeed/d/18885.html or any for that matter. What is the problem I wonder?

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  13. It is evident the older man wearing the white Shalwar Khameez is running when he is shot; he has lost his shoes and they have been thrown several meters. It is unclear what he is running away from, most likely his killers.

    What is clear however is where he is running: toward the gate. Why there, when he could have sought shelter among the numerous vehicles and tried to climb over the wall as all the other escapees did. Did he expect the Gaddafi guards to just open the gate for him? Nobody else tried that.

    There is only one conclusion that can be drawn. In fact I have always assumed so, but did not realize the need to spell it out: When the man was shot, the gate was open!

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    1. I see about the same thing, although such things can't be certain. I wonder if he was brought there and set free to be their shot runner, or maybe already there, surprised, shot down? Who knows. Neither he nor the crawler seems to be very blown up with grenades before running. Although the both do show serious bleeding all over, little torn clothing and no visible missing limbs.

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  14. It's clear that Anmesty International rushed out their 26 August report, based on the witness Al-Lafi whom nobody else found, without coming anywhere near the compound.

    AmnestyInternational ‏ @AmnestyOnline
    New evidence that pro-Gaddafi troops killed captives, a war crime http://ow.ly/6dtfi #humanrights #NTC #Gaddafi #Tripoli #warcrimes
    6:45 PM - 26 Aug 11 via HootSuite

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    1. I don't see a reference to Amnesty UK tweeting about this, and their blog on killings in Tripoli has been pulled, but the Danish branch of Amnesty tweeted the report shortly after midday!

      Amnesty Danmark‏ @amnestydk
      Forces loyal to Mu’ammar al-Gaddafi have killed numerous detainees at two military camps in #libya http://bit.ly/qhlRiU
      1:57 PM - 26 Aug 11 via web


      A Danish citizen activist, Jamal Al-Hajji had just been released from prison, having conveniently arrived in the country in February 2011.

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    2. An interesting character, Mr Al-Hajji - he had been locked up in 2009-10 also and a former Amnesty prisoner of conscience, a constant thorn in the side of the Libyan government; aka Jamal El-Haji. More information here and here

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    3. The contenders: Likely power-brokers in a post-Gaddafi Libya
      Prince Mohammed El-Senussi

      Suleiman Abdul Qader The exiled chairman of the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya

      Abdelhakim Belhaj Led the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group in the 1990s in several terrorist plots in Libya.

      Jamal Al-Hajji A human rights activist, writer, lawyer and long-standing opponent of Gaddafi who heads the 17 February Movement,
      named after the date of a heavy crackdown on opposition protests in Benghazi in 2006. Mr Al-Hajji holds dual Libyan and Danish nationality and has been imprisoned on various occasions; he is currently in jail on the pretext of a traffic offence.
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/will-the-nofly-zone-stop-libyas-dictator-2247226.html

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    4. Dr Juma Al-Kaabi, Under Secretary for the Ministry of Municipalities and
      Agriculture Affairs and Yousef Al Bory, the elected Municipality Board for the
      Northern Governorate were given a tour of Adhari Park by the engineer,Aoun Al Khnizi

      and Jamal Al Haji, Chairman of Adhari Park Development
      Company during an official visit today (15 August).

      http://www.adharipark.com.bh/english/pdf/Secretary_of_Ministry.pdf

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    5. CLASSIFIED BY: Gene Cretz, Ambassador. REASON: 1.4 (b), (d) 1.

      (C) The head of the Human Rights Society of Libya (HRSL), Muhammed Tarnesh, confirmed to the UK Embassy on March 13
      that Jamal al-Haji and Faraj Humaid have been released from detention and are with their families.
      He did not provide information on the terms of their release or whether legal proceedings had concluded.

      Al-Haji and Humaid were the last of eleven political detainees sentenced to prison last June for attempting to foment rebellion against the "people's authority system" and conducting unauthorized communications with an official of a foreign government (ref A).
      Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:13 UTC
      http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09TRIPOLI227

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    6. Jamal Al Hajji.” ...
      December 23, 2010
      A delegation of Libyans arrives in Paris for meetings with Mesrami and other French officials. The Libyans are Ali Ounes Mansouri, Farj Charrant and Fathi Boukhris. These three men will be known later together with Ali Hajj as leaders of the revolution, that started from Benghazi.

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    7. Ali Hajj = Jamal Al Hajji

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  15. Anyway, these kinds of things will surely improve with time.

    The NED will establish a special-effects department, probably an iPhone app to access off-site CG artists with a massive data base of consistent animations with adjustable lighting, etc.
    Anything to help freedom.
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=7190797

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  16. Abdulrahim Ibrahim Bashir, 25 told HRW The [warehouse] was already burning when the rebels came, but I didn’t see how it happened. I just saw it when the rebels came; it was already burnt, and black smoke was coming out. I left around sunset yesterday [August 26]....."around sunset", Aug 26. Hmmmmm What black smoke?

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    1. http://www.warscapes.com/reportage/qaddafis-abattoir/page/0/1

      The survivor, Abdulrahim Ibrahim Bashir, 25, said that at sunset on August 23 guards of the Khamis Brigade opened fire on him and the other detainees from the roof, shooting through the roof’s tin sheeting,

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  17. This story by Al Jazeera may well explain the crawling and the running victim.

    Rebels tighten grip on Tripoli

    Quote: At around 7 pm, a crowd of civilians and rebels near the barracks scattered under rifle fire coming from nearby residential buildings.

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    1. rifle fire coming from nearby residential buildings.

      The mosque behind the shed ?


      rebel martyr from Rayayna :

      363 Abdullah Daou Ogress 25 Juma agricultural / behind camp Khamis ♦
      363 عبدالله ضو الغولة 25 جمعة الزراعية / خلف معسكر خميس ♦
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  18. I would like to propose another place as where the massacre could have happened :

    The Colonel opened the prison doors for us to escape but it's a long way from the prison to the main gate and when we got there Gaddafi troops started firing on us, so we went back to the prison again,"
    he said.

    The troops killed two people and wounded eight, he said.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8734171/Libya-rebel-describes-torture-and-starvation-at-hands-of-Gaddafi-loyalists.html

    A cell block n Abu Salim prison on Sep 5. No crowds. I was there with a friend who was released Aug 24 twitpic.com/6iuq03


    Rida #Mazagri #Charleston #Surgeon Freed from #Libya #AbuSalim Prison Talks of Torture youtube.com/watch?v=GNq309… #Canada
    http://www.youtube.com/user/salemsalem1970/videos?view=0


    "The prison where [Mazagri] was being kept, there was an image released where around 50 people were burned to death.
    It was just a day or two after he was released

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    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQyQw3FYXU
      @ 3.29 alhabib alamien , political prisoner freed by rebels from abu saleem prison

      connection with ? :

      escapee mohamed lamien @ 3.06
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aX0WC78QmA&t=2m32s
      [talking about @5.25 brahim tajouri]

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    2. Libiyan tv closed 22 aug

      http://libya-revolution.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.html

      The Libyan television showed the sites that NATO planes had bombed and one of those sites is located in Abu Salim center where is a political and security prison known as Abu Salim.

      The news is that the rebels were able to free prisoners detained in prison, "Abu Salim" after NATO targeted security gates in the vicinity of the prison, and armed clashes and demonstrations were recorded in some neighborhoods.

      http://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flibya-revolution.blogspot.com%2F2011_08_01_archive.html




      As Reuters explained, five of the prisoners released on Tuesday had links to the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)

      the site [near Abu Salim prison in Tripoli] , was identified earlier on 20 August.
      If that is the case, why is the media making all this noise now?
      http://cirqueminimeparis.blogspot.com/2011/10/normal-0-0-1-1288-6184-106-17-9018-11.html

      From 690 prisoners escaped buslim yesterday 540 were al qaeda member
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTkge56M7ts

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    3. @ petri : y were looking for more information about the release of Belhadj and companions.
      Saief al Islam had a house on one of the corners of the Nasr woods, so it could be there was a party at that time near the place were after a massacre took place

      I found this link : don't know if it is of any help ?

      -Abu Saleem Prisoners freed in 2010 and 2011 on initiative of Zeef al Islam related to :

      705 prisoners have been released as part of the initiative. Tuesday’s release followed the release of 214 men in March,
      and on Tuesday Mohamed al-Allagi, the chairman of the human rights committee of the Gaddafi Foundation, stated,

      http://www.cageprisoners.com/our-work/opinion-editorial/item/513-ex-guantanamo-prisoner-freed-in-libya-after-three-years-detention-and-information-about-ghost-prisoners

      sic : Mohammed al-Alagi, justice minister for the rebels' National Transitional Council,
      Libya grants immunity to‘revolutionaries’

      http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/03/libya-grants-immunity-to-revolutionaries/

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    4. activist al-Habib al-Amin
      http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/libya-federalists-trigger-fears-secession

      http://feb17.info/news/new-libyan-leaders-juggle-demands-grievances/
      There’s a lack of trust between the politicians and the streets,” said Alhabib Alamin, a 44-year-old writer and political activist in Benghazi.

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    5. Saif al-Islam's involvement in the reconciliation effort has received widespread local and international media attention -- state-run print media has published excerpts of the text and praised Saif for his work, and CNN recently broadcast a feature report on the efforts.

      http://wikileaks.org/cable/2009/12/09TRIPOLI955.html#

      International think-tanks such as the Quilliam Foundation and Jihadica have analyzed the efforts and the LIFG document, with the latter calling it a "very sweeping repudiation not just of Salafi jihadism but of all forms of revolutionary Islamism in general."

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  19. People related to abu slaeem prison and BBC :

    Mohammed M. Ramadan, a Libyan journalist and announcer at the BBC's Arabic section in London, was a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir and opposed to the regime of Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir

    This is my first time inside, and honestly I don't want to be here," said Akram Mohamed Ramadan, a British-Libyan radio broadcaster whose father had been imprisoned here in the 1980s.
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2090681,00.html#ixzz1qjd9wk00

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    1. The freed thousands of Abu saleem prison directed immediately to
      Hay Andalus . If the burned victims and shed victims are the same : then it explains why they were burned [ 2 times] beyound recognition and why no one has undertaken a research.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1I2ktODLs0&feature=autoplay&list=ULkk8eKlFjWiw&lf=mfu_in_orde&playnext=3
      Libyan Fighters in Hayy Al-Andalus and at Muhammad Gaddafi's House (Tripoli, Libya) Aug. 21, 2011

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    2. The relatives of one victim, Abdul Raouf Al Rashdi, a 33-year-old police officer, said he had been killed by a sniper several days earlier in the Hay Andalus neighborhood.

      http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11239/1170396-82-0.stm?cmpid=news.xml#ixzz1gMcorduA

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    3. A lot of good stuff, Hurriya, but off-topic. Fair warning, I've copied these over and will delete from here once I put them somewhere else. That'll be why those "disappeared."

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    4. @ caustic : I have posted this stuff here , c nobody seems to wonder why the shed victims are burned beyound recognition.

      The lower ranks seem to have been dumped in wadi's. Or quickly buried in massgraves , while more massgraves come to light nowadays.

      Higher loyalists , special from hay andalus , disappeared at the same time as the shed events and the freeing of the abu saleem prison.

      According to my Intuition, no proof, the shed theatre could very well contain other victims. Who can say that there aren't women and children amongst it as well?

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    5. Okay, thanks. I'm a little scattered, didn't know where to put them anyway... Andalus.neighborhood .. high-level, IDs charred - matches with body #1, middle-aged man stripped of uniform and tortured, face burned off. I suspect you're right at least in part.

      In that context, might be worth considering to put in the report. No promises tho, I'm trying to NOT add to it now...

      Women and children are possible too, if not very likely IMO. An expert with the best photos could tell race, gender, age, and other things in at least some cases. I already identified one skull as caucasian (Arab, not African - prominent nasal sill)

      the below, interesting too.

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    6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF-ugiFjZxA

      @ 1.50 white green truck hay andalous

      compare logo on the facade of the shop with :

      https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537990_463520210379265_1213127047_n.jpg

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  20. I like to add :

    What happened August 21?
    EXCLUSIVE | Rebels stormed Palm City in hunt for Gaddafi

    Maltese eyewitnesses told MaltaToday that on the evening of Sunday 21 August, some 200 fully-armed rebel fighters shot their way through the gates of the Corinthia-owned luxury residential resort in Janzour in search of the Gaddafis, just one hour after the Bab Al-Aziziya compound had fallen.

    One of the tweeters sent out the registration plates of the Chevrolets in which Gaddafi loyalists fled Palm City, while another said that looting was taking place inside the complex during a gun battle with rebels.

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  21. not new, but a well known vid from another point of view :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-lkyX_nRbI

    Scheming CNN Reporter Presents Purposely Burned Libyan Soldiers As Rebels Victim to Gaddafi

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    1. That's a great commentary, so quick. A commenter points out the mask off-mask on of Mr Own 2.10 and 2.32...

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  22. it must be said that introducing the shed on friday 26 aug was a tactical thing that worked as a complete distractor of the real crimes committed at the roundabout and the abu saleem hospital and many more

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  31. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=274291659352209&set=a.274289932685715.60550.156854547762588&type=1&theater

    soil everywhere soaked with blood

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    1. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=396320137100281&set=vb.211377508927978&type=2&theater

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    2. the body @4.09 is on a photo of 26 august somewhere posted by Peti , displaying 3 bodies on an open truck .have to check

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  32. this happens now in Siriya : an example how to burn your victims

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLDtLcUODQw&bpctr=1349964856

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  33. NO BODIES found at Yarmouk ?



    Tripoli, 12 December 2012 :

    Reports that unidentified bodies and money have been found at the Yarmouk camp in Tripoli have been denied by an interior ministry official, Fawzi Falaq.

    He said that no bodies nor any money had been found when security agencies started excavating the site in response to such reports.

    It was reported that excavations had carried on until Monday and that the digging was up to two metres deep.

    Sources claimed that despite the absence of any bodies, blood-stained clothes and blankets were found.

    The camp, on the south side of Tripoli in the Khaled Al-Farjan area, on the road to Qasr Ben Ghashir, was reportedly the scene of a massacre in August 2011 in which the Khamis Brigade is said to have burned between 60 and 70 people alive.

    One eyewitness, living near the camp, had said that there had been intermittent digging at the camp and bodies were found each time and removed.

    http://www.libyaherald.com/2012/12/12/no-bodies-found-at-yarmouk-camp-official/

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  34. with their heads on piles of sand

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    tactics used in misrata :
    The prisoners’ hands were bound with plastic ties.

    They were ordered to lie on their side, with their heads on piles of sand.
    All my guides were involved, saying they had held the legs of the prisoners while their throats were cut with bayonets.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170025/Back-bloody-anarchy-Andrew-Malone-revisits-Libya-finds-country-riven-torture-mass-murder-savage-vengeance.html#ixzz28Sxo64Cd

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  35. http://sealiberty.com/journey/africa/libya.html#nato-tawergha-genocide

    State-owned dairy processing facilities used to exist in all major urban areas, some of these have been privatized by Al Naseem Dairy. The Tawergha state-owned dairy processing facility was completely dismantled and all the buildings were destroyed.

    Many of the victims were from Tawerga, a town 30 miles from Misrata, where some 50,000 black Libyans once lived in co-existence with their neighbours.

    Today, Tawerga has been ethnically cleansed of its black Libyans, and largely destroyed. Militia fighters regularly drive out there from Misrata to make sure none of the population have sneaked back in.

    Signs bearing the town’s name have been painted over. What remains of the shattered homes, shops and restaurants have been daubed with vile graffiti: ‘Black dogs! No blacks.’

    A group of ‘freedom fighters’ told me how they had ransacked the town, setting fire to buildings and attacking anyone they found. These men told how they repeatedly kicked a heavily-pregnant Tawergan woman in the stomach. One said: ‘The woman was shouting as we kicked her: “I could be your mother.”

    ‘I told her my mother is not a black b***h,’ he added.

    Some 25,000 Tawergans have now been placed in ‘refugee camps’, which are, in effect, little more than prisons.

    The people in these camps do not dare leave: Misrata militias scour the country for anyone from Tawerga and regularly kidnap and torture black Libyans suspected of helping Gaddafi.

    And even in the camps, fortified with barbed wire and watched by armed guards, the refugees are not safe from the marauding militias.

    In a series of attacks, fighters from Misrata have opened fire on camp residents, killing both men and women. The latest happened at a camp for 1,700 Tawergans in Tripoli this week, when men from Misrata in four cars attacked with guns.

    So bad has the situation been that some want the Nato-backed rebels to be tried for war crimes. The tragic irony is that Britain, France and the U.S. imposed a no-fly zone and helped overthrow Gaddafi to stop him committing war crimes.

    Medical charities now refuse to work in Misrata. They pulled out after accusing rebels of bringing torture victims in for treatment - only to take them back for more torture once their wounds had recovered sufficiently for their bodies to cope.

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